10 without dogs, 8 with. had the lovely experience of walking by 3 other leashed dogs and everyone behaving just fine. when no dogs are lunging it makes a huge difference.
echo got a little snarly with keene, maybe b/c i had him right next to me & he's a bit protective. or maybe he's just a jerk. but i am very comfortable that he is not dog aggressive- paula pointed out if that was the case he would go after every dog. i've had that corroborated by a few other experts. he's just noisy and grumpy. and we're working on it.
and camel's back around 7:45. no kids on trails or in the park.
happy trails!
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